30/09/2009

David Runcorn on Life together

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What experiences do we bring to shared life or community?
What sort of homes and communities do we come from? We will be bringing our experiences with us. Our culture is not used to shared life with an increase in the sense of what makes a family. We are on shifting ground. What does community mean to us? There may have been times in our lives when we have been distant from community.



Bonhoeffer's in 'Life Together' explains how a radically new way of belonging was the only way which Christian witness could become effective.

For Bonhoeffer community is a SPIRITUAL REALITY. We are here because we live under authority and community is formed by the Holy Spirit. A Christian community is there because God wills it - we are part of a bigger picture. It is all because of God's grace and mercy and community life is a gift in Christ.



He describes Christian community a a 'gracious anticipation'. We live in the thick of foes...we are a scattered people...it is a privilege to live in visible fellowship because our brothers and sisters are scattered and persecuted unlike us. How grateful we should be to God!



A community of the undevout - this is when we become church - it is when we can not keep up the energy any more to be good and nice. At Lee Abbey, for example, they did reach breaking point and friendships did fracture. What do we do at that point? To shift from idealism to grace. No one can live up to ideals because we live by grace. Don't live aiming at idealism, you'll end up condemned. Expect it to be messy. We are undevout - we look messy to the outside world - how could we look any other way - but broken!



Idealism is thinking that the perfection of community is required for God to be present - actually God is present in our brokenness - it is by God's grace that we can live. Rowan Williams: 'The greatest gift is the gift I have not because there I learn to live by grace. '



Henry Nouwen talks about the community of hospitality and how we need these boundaries to come together - hospitality requires the setting of boundaries - we welcome others into our shared life but we need to risk and give each other permission to ask the bigger questions. If others suspect we have it all sown up and dare not ask questions, then are we being truly welcoming - we need instead to risk real questions and be prepared to look foolish - don't play safe - there is no future in this!



Jean Vanier describes how community can be a terrible place, our egoism is there and we will discover all that is horrible about ourselves. We could love perfectly from afar but being in community it will test our perceptions of ourselves. We will have to deal with ourselves and our vulnerabilities and jealousies and our egoism.



St Paul describes how in 2 Cor 5 , we are in a community of unveiled faces - from now on we look at no one from a human point of view. The person sitting next to you could be the biggest gift this community gives you. It is about God and it is about people. We are 'cracked pots'.



What aspects of shared life do you enjoy?
What aspects do you dread?
How will it lead you into a more mature faith?

29/09/2009

More on Kephale

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Just to draw your attention to another piece of literature in which it would seem that Kephale denotes the sense of source or origin and not authority over. See Suzanne's Bookshelf. I wonder if I'll be able to write on Pauline theology without writing about this?

I certainly want to write an essay in which I redeem Paul for the way that he has been thought of by the church as someone perpetuating patriarchal culture. However, having dealt with this such a lot recently, it would be good to write instead so that I might redeem Paul in the sense of the charisms and especially his expectation that our walk in the Spirit should be an experiential thing in which speaking in tongues, for example, was just a normal part of Christian life for the edification of the believer and the church at large if occurring in an orderly way and with interpretation.

Paul was a wonderful, passionate, Spirit-filled, prayerful, suffering, charismatic, humble, egalitarian sort of chap! I'm loving learning about him, thanks to Fee and Dunn.

The God who does not differentiate

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Asa, the King of the Southern Kingdom had built up the fortifications and expunged the land of idols but with the invasion of the Ethiopians, they are outnumbered 2:1. Asa cries out in desperation, as do we at difficult times in our lives.  Do we ever grade our prayers, thinking that he will grant us the smaller requests, whilst we hold back, on what would seem from our perspective, problems too difficult. Who are we then to imagine problems too difficult for God? Should we not instead petition the Lord with cries like Asa's 'O Lord there is no difference for you between helping the mighty and the weak. Help us, O Lord our God, for we rely on you,' (2 Chronicles 9:11).

To God there are no grades of prayer. If he can raise up Christ from the dead, then he can do anything in accordance with his divine will and perfect nature. We can bring to him what we assume it is hard for him to do and we can bring to him what might seem impossible, for him there is no difference. This should give us confidence as we turn to him moment by moment. Azariah son of Oded, a prophet upon whom the Spirit of God has fallen, reassures Asa with words we would do well to attend to:
'The Lord is with you, while you are with him. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you abandon him, he will abandon you,' (2 Chronicles 15:2).

Is this like standing in a mirror to seek a reflection which disappears when you turn away when in actual fact, you are, of course, still there. God does not abandon us but it will seem like he has if we do not seek him. We must go on seeking. If we do he will be found. In a book called 'The Cloud of Unknowing' by Halcyon C. Backhouse, the author describes how if it ever seems as though God is hidden in a cloud, it is because he is drawing us after himself, he is creating in us a longing for him. We have to seek him, sometimes we need to persist and persevere, sometimes our prayers are answered immediately. Beg him that he make himself available to you. The people in 2 Chronicles 15 bind themselves into a solid covenant and they swear to go on desiring his presence and he gives them rest and in that framework we can be confident that we will be rewarded. When we understand God in his love and mercy, we can come confidently to him. If we seek him, he'll be found and we must bind ourselves again today to seek him with our whole hearts and we will be found by him. Remember nothing is too hard for God, search for him and he will be found by you, seek him and you will be rewarded!

Thanks CAB

πνευματικον and ξηαρισμα

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Pneumatikon and charisma.

Dunn explains how 'charisma is a concept which we owe almost entirely to Paul (p.206).

It denotes the gracious act of God- his unmerited generosity in terms of a gracious gift ' the free gift of God is eternal life.'

It is used of particular gifts given to the believer. Celibacy is considered a gift, a charisma. Also the gifts of 1 Cor 12:

To some people the Spirit gives the message of wisdom. To others the same Spirit gives the message of knowledge. To others the same Spirit gives faith. To others that one Spirit gives gifts of healing. To others he gives the power to do miracles. To others he gives the ability to prophesy. To others he gives the ability to tell the spirits apart. To others he gives the ability to speak in different kinds of languages they had not known before. And to still others he gives the ability to explain what was said in those languages.


Paul longs to see the Romans so that 'I may impart to you some spiritual gift to strengthen you.' Paul uses the sense of sharing too in what is given. He is confident that when they come together, God will minister through him and they will all receive.

More later

there but for the grace of God...

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So here I am in the reading room at college and I have 'The Spirit of Jesus' with me, ooh, in more ways than just one. So today, I crack on with James Dunn on 'The spirit of Jesus'. I guess I have some presuppositions in that I am wanting to understand charismatic revival in the sense that it has its roots in a very Pauline theology.

Yesterday I looked at the resurrection appearance on the Damascus road and Paul's status as an apostle. Today I want to look at 'The charismatic spirit and the consciousness of grace'. So get reading, Rach.

So Dunn explains that the two words that Paul uses more than any others to explain the experiences of Christians are Spirit and grace. So this is experiential. I think I want to redeem the experiential dimension of Christian life because I feel as though this is really drummed out of people in some conservative evangelical churches. They are so aware of a contemporary culture which highly values adrenalin rushes and the whole - 'if it feels good, then do it' mentality, that we are suffering some hang-ups with Anglicanism about these experiences of the manifestations of the holy Spirit and we are almost embarrassed about them.

Dunn asks that we consider:

God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.(Rom 5:5)

And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.(Rom 8:9)

For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.(Rom 8:14)

...eagerly desire spiritual gifts (1 Cor 14:1)

...you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor 6:11)

...we were all given the one Spirit to drink. (1 Cor 12:13)

Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by your observing the law, or by your believing what you heard? (Gal 3:5)

Because you are his children, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts. He is the Holy Spirit. By his power we call God "[Abba.]" Abba means Father. (Galatians 4:6)

Our good news didn't come to you only in words. It came with power. It came with the Holy Spirit's help. (I Thess 1:5)

Dunn describes how for Paul, the Spirit's power is part of our daily life. The Spirit consecrates and cleanses. He liberates us. We come to make ethical decisions because we have a sense of 'inward conviction and spontaneous love, of walking by the Spirit, rather than of unquestioning obedience to the law...'

Dunn also explains how for Paul, the Spirit's power can 'not be concealed'. ...Hence Paul can remind his Galatian readers of their reception of the Spirit as an event well remembered by them all (Gal 3:2). So too it is the (manifest) presence of the Spirit which defines and determines the sphere of being 'in Christ' (Rom 8:9). (p.202)

Dunn also explores how for Paul, grace is not simply something believed in, it is also something experienced. 'For Paul grace means power, an otherly power at work in and through the believer's life, the experience of God's Spirit,' (p.203).

'No one can read such praises as 'all grace abounding to you', 'the surpassing grace of God upon you', 'the richness of God's grace lavished upon us' (II Cor 9:8, 14; Eph 1.7f) without realising that we are dealing with an experiential concept of great moment. Dunn is persuasive that it is with this in mind that we must engage with the Pauline greetings and benedictions. He is wanting the members of the churches to whom he is writing seek this experiential reality of life with God by His Spirit. Grace is a 'dynamic concept' according to Dunn (p.204) because it overlaps with 'Spirit' and 'power'. The grace of conversion is not different to the continual reception of grace. In other words the grace which transformed us is not different to the grace working in us. Often the experience of it is felt like a kind of inward compulsion to some activity or service.

Dunn explains how 'Unlike his near contemporary Philo, Paul never uses Charis in the plural, always singular. All grace, including its particular manifestations, is the one grace of God.' I think that this is helpful to meditate upon and I wonder if it is always what we are communicating today. Are we sometimes paying less attention to the grace that is experienced? Are we teaching it more as a concept, a doctrinal concept?

28/09/2009

Thinking about those definitive moments...

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...the encounters with God which change your life moments.

Reading about Paul from an African perspective from the Asia Journal of Theology

It is pertinent at this point to make some very salient observations in
connection with the mystical elements in Paul's theology of the Holy Spirit.

"1. When Paul met the Risen Lord on the road to Damascus, something happened to him which completely changed his life. He had an encounter with God which revolutionized his theological conception. From that point in time, Paul's concept of God was mystical to the core. He held tenaciously to the reality of a living union with God. God was no longer an abstract phenomenon to Paul. He could therefore say that he received his commission from God to preach the Gospel (Gal. 1:10f)."

Are we too British in our ever so Anglican churches to share our testimonies of our encounters with God? Do they not in fact work to equip us and others for mission?

Ever have a 'completely overwhelmed by His beauty moment'?

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I Can Only Imagine


I can only imagine
What it will be like
When I walk
By your side

I can only imagine
What my eyes will see
When your face
Is before me
I can only imagine

I can only imagine

[Chorus:]
Surrounded by Your glory, what will my heart feel
Will I dance for you Jesus or in awe of you be still
Will I stand in your presence or to my knees will I fall
Will I sing hallelujah, will I be able to speak at all
I can only imagine

I can only imagine

I can only imagine
When that day comes
And I find myself
Standing in the Son

I can only imagine
When all I will do
Is forever
Forever worship You
I can only imagine

I can only imagine

[Chorus]

I can only imagine [x2]

I can only imagine
When all I will do
Is forever, forever worship you

I can only imagine

Paul the Mystic? Defining encounters.

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The only thing that really captured me from Borg and Crossan's book on St Paul, which I read whilst I was in Devon, was their descriptions of Paul's very experiences of Jesus and the spirit, the idea of Paul the Christian mystic, so today, whilst fellow first years are in 'Church and Ministry' module, I will read Dunn on 'The religious Experience Of Paul and The Pauline Churches'. What a privilege. (Dunn, J., D., G., Jesus and the Spirit', SCM, 1975).


'...Here we have Paul's own words, the letters, and not poems or manuals of discipline, or philosophical treatises, we gain an insight into the mind and experience of the author such as no other literature of the time affords'. (para 36 intro).
I have always hesitated at Paul's:

1 Cor 15:8 Last of all, as to someone untimely born , he appeared also to me.

This is because it always reminds me of that line from Macbeth where Macduff is described as 'from his mother's womb untimely ripped.' This early account of a caesarian always fascinated my GCSE class. So obviously I wondered what Dunn might have to say on this front. He notes also its comparisons to Shakespeare's play and obviously Shakespeare knew his Bible, unlike your average GCSE class today.

Dunn feels that with the phrase 'last of all', Paul is indicating that the last resurrection appearance was his. He describes how this is debated but points out also that causing greater debate is the word 'ektroma' which means 'abortion'. I must admit I had always thought that Paul was lamenting his late birth, for if he had been born earlier he might have been with the other apostles who spent time with the resurrected Christ. But the word 'ektroma' denotes early and not late birth. Dunn wonders whether it might therefore convey the suddenness of Paul's conversion before he was really ready for it (mind you, isn't that an experience of many of us?). Dunn goes on to explain that ektroma denotes the RESULT of premature birth rather than the manner. There is perhaps even the suggestion that Paul is hinting at his monstrous appearance, remember that 'thorn in the flesh' which scholars have always wondered about. Perhaps Paul is suggesting that Jesus Christ appeared to him last of all, someone monstrous. Whatever the case I am beginning to realise that this Paul whom I have always imagined to be so greatly admired by the churches to whom he preached, much like our modern day Billy Graham, might have in actual fact, apart from the security which he had because he was in Christ, was actually quite an insecure chap who wasn't always well-received by the churches and was talked about in hushed whispers by people who even disputed his apostleship. Somehow it feels kind of ironic that the man who has caused indirectly such questions to be raised over the apostleship and ministry of women, suffered much the same kind of pain that women have suffered who have heard God's call down the ages.

It is almost as if Paul is at pains to explain that the resurrection appearance of Christ is something very unique to him. He ranks it alongside that of the earliest witnesses:

1 Corinthians 15:5-8 (Today's New International Version)


5 and that he appeared to Cephas, [a] and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

Dunn is most convincing when he relates the sense of Paul's almost aborted birth or premature birth to the sense that the conversion happened too soon, rather than too late, which might be what the 'last of all' seems to convey'. Paul had not matured in the faith, he had instead been converted prematurely. But without it, this premature conversion, he would have been too late for this last resurrection appearance which was to be his, for so it had been destined by God. Dunn describes:

'All the apostles' had already seen Jesus and been commissioned by him (1 Cor. 15:7); only by premature birth was Paul enabled to join the apostolic circle before it finally closed. In a note, Dunn describes how at the time of Paul's claim it would have been unlikely 'that resurrection appearances were thought to be ended or the circle closed...otherwise his claim would never have been accepted.'

I like the way that Dunn explains how Paul deliberately refrains from using the word 'vision' to describe his encounter with the risen Christ and I was disturbed by Crossan and Borg's implication that it was some kind of vision. I must go back and look at what they said exactly.

Paul says 'I saw' (1 Cor. 9:1) from ὁράω (horaō) (to see) (with the eyes). This happened in the past because it was that definitive act, that first encounter with the risen Christ which was important, despite all the other spiritual experiences since, this was what qualifies him as an apostle. In 1 Cor 15:8, we have this word again to indicate seeing with the eyes, ὁράω (horaō). Here it is used to express how Christ 'appeared'.

In 2 Cor 12:1ff, this experience of the risen Christ on the road to Damascus is differentiated from the more ecstatic experiences here.  His was an experience of the physically resurrected Christ as compared to the more pneumatic Christ; the Christ 'the life-giving Spirit' (p.103).

Different scholars have conjectured differently though as regards this 'seeing'. Crossan and Borg will argue that Paul perceived with his mind. Dunn describes how W Marxsen comes to similar conclusions. However, in Biblical Greek the sense is very much visual perception, so it is worth not being too persuaded by Crossan and Borg with their very rational explanations of what they thought Paul was encountering.

More another time.
Popping off to 'Images of Early church Fathers' lecture, for a break ;-)

What worked as a definitive act or encounter in your journey? Mine was being knocked off my feet by the awesome presence of God through his Holy Spirit at Alpha a few years ago. I was determined that that sort of thing didn't happen until it happened to me. That moment changed my life. Praise God.

27/09/2009

Cake or death?

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Enough already!

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Bill Howell, Primary leader at NLI Europe, which stands for Next Level International, preached this morning at The New Life Christian Centre on Normanton Road in Derby. He talked about outreach in Poland, which, yes, made me sit up even straighter than I already was, in my seat, having a Polish husband is going to benefit God's Kingdom. We will return next week for more idea about how.

God has put it on Bill's heart to reach forty nations by the year 2020 with the Good News. This is big and he knows it but he says that God tends always to put things on people's hearts that are bigger than they are because in that way He can be bigger than you. I guess when the vision is so big we have no choice but to rely totally on the Lord for strength.

Bill wanted us to explore whether we have ever felt like the last of Jesse's sons, the one whom his father did not even consider for Kingship, whilst all the time David's heavenly Father had plans to the contrary. Do we ever feel like that last son? Do we ever have that dialogue running in our heads – surely it can't be me Lord? Do we consider all of those around us, our elder brothers and sisters, to be more talented, more worthy than we are? Do we say with Jeremiah 'I am only a child'? Do we make God's vision for our lives too small? Some moments are definitely best characterised as those 'God, you must have got it wrong moments.' They go something like this. 'God, you are awesome and amazing but you know, Lord, perhaps you are having an off-day, perhaps you have it wrong. Because if you are calling me, I am not sure I measure up'.

The thing is we do God's work in his strength and not our own. Peter had one of these moments when he was given the vision of the picnic blanket from which he could take and eat whatever he wanted. There was resistance at first. He thought that God had it wrong. Moses had one of these moments when he asked God, 'But who am I?'



If we look at the parable of the talents in Matthew 25, we see that the first servant was given the equivalent of millions of pounds, the second servant was given about one third of a million and the third servant was given about £625,000. What they went and did with it was what mattered. In God's economy, we know that we are all equal but we also see that some are more talented than others in certain areas. But God gives according to his wisdom and so that we might glorify him. We should not compare ourselves with others but seek to honour him with all that we have been given. The story of the talents is about many things but also this. The first servant doubled the investment as did the second but the servant who was given the least amount evaluates his boss and judges him harshly. He didn't consider his boss worthy so he doesn't even put the money in the bank, he does nothing with what he has been given. He opts out because he didn't think he could do it. Did he instead just sit and brood about what he had not been given in comparison to the other servants? It would seem so. Do we do this? He thought that others would do it better and so he gave up completely. Familiar?


We must not be like this. We can not opt out. We need to get right with God. What we choose to do with what we have been given is so important. It is a reflection of our attitude to God. We all have the same opportunities in so much as we all have 24 hours in a day and 7 days in a week. We can't afford to say that we haven't been given enough. However, we will. We will say it often and it is this that we need to work on but many people have said 'but I haven't got enough, either.' The widow did not say it when she gave what she had and gave the lot ,but the disciples complained that they didn't have enough. The little boy, simply offered what he had, much like the widow, his picnic lunch. 'Here's what I have been given, take it.' He evaluated his master worthy of his very best and God gave him this opportuniy and so he seized it and gave everything. And look what was left. 12 baskets. 12 baskets! You might have thought about the significance of those 12 baskets and there are many interpretations but imagine each basket now being gathered up by a disciple. Imagine each disciple holding it in their hands, looking at it and marvelling at God's provision. How they had underestimated him with their 'we haven't got enough'. They had failed to evaluate the situation, unlike the little boy for what God might do with it. Yet, there was God's abundance so obviously in their hands. Seize your opportunities and use them to glorify God, God has given you enough!


What is it about the NIV?

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We are not allowed to quote from the NIV at college and today the preacher on my church-hop described it as the 'Not Inspired Version' and from the chuckling all around me, it seemed that a lot of people agreed with him. Obviously, there is a degree of hyperbole but I wonder why so many people feel this way. Any ideas?

26/09/2009

New Life

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Excellent. Really looking forward to going to this tomorrow.
NEW LIFE



(Cessasionists look away now)

It is also really fantastic to think of all those Alpha courses starting up over the next week or so where people might come to have their first encounters with experiential manifestations of the Holy Spirit's power.

Speaking about 'stuff'

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Hooray, blog gets sent its second free book to review

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Excellent. I really hope to do this kind of thing here. The first book I got sent I haven't reviewed yet. There is a reason for this. I need more teaching on the atonement before I can really respond at the necessary intellectual level. However, this next opportunity, I will crack on with straight away. I have already passed the first first year module at college as an independent student so I will just hang out in the occasional lecture with my friends on Mondays especially when there is teaching on the ordinal. Last time, I didn't engage with this enough  as I discovered in module feedback because I wrote a very evangelical scripture-based response to a question. So with Mondays free at times, I will blogging from the library about this book after it's been delivered through my letter-box.

And David Rudel, I do intend to grapple with your book soon!

Philip Clayton's new book, Transforming Christian Theology: For Church and Society (in collaboration with Tripp Fuller (that is me!) and with a forward by Tony Jones.
Phyllis Tickle Says...
“Straight-forward and tantalizingly thorough, Transforming Christian Theology is the first volume to describe in a highly accessible and concrete way how Christian groups of any size or circumstance can locate and amend themselves theologically. This is, in sum, a very, very user-friendly Traveler’s Guide to largely uncharted territory.”
Brian McLaren Says...
How can an important book of theology be so delightful to read? How can a top-drawer theologian have such a high level of respect for "normal" Christians that they are seen as partners in the work of transforming theology? How can Philip Clayton make the idea of big-tent, progressive Christianity so believable and attractive that one can imagine Evangelicals, Charismatics, Mainliners, and Roman Catholics having a meal and joyfully discussing it together? There's only one way to find out - open up Transforming Christian Theology and start reading now.

A Thousand Splendid Suns and one sufficient Son

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I found it particularly poignant that the minute I finished my book (A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini), I should hit on this sermon on marriage via my blog list. The preacher marries the couple before him with words such as:
'Marriage is like the trinity, The Father is in charge. Jesus ALWAYS submits to the father, he obeys, he says what his father has told him to say...To submit to any authority, you are being Godlike...we have a couple (indicating the husband and wife), a head and a helper... Wives, submit to the husband as the head - he is in charge...'
'Helpmeet' emm, 'ezer kenegdo' yes, and when it's attributed to God, He is never subordinate to His people, he is their rescuer. Dr. Susan Hyatt in In the Spirit We're Equal "defines the Hebrew to mean "one who is the same as the other and who surrounds, protects, aids, helps, supports," with no indication of a secondary position.

The preacher marrying the couple goes on to say, 

'In a culture where Jesus has been proclaimed and women have been raised to equality, and have been treated in every way equal but different to men, [in] that same culture, people jettison God and the women say they want to jettison the men, they say, we want to be in charge.'

But it's never about who is in charge. God is in charge. We submit to Christ (we, being men and women), When did the 4 tier structure come in? And where is the Holy Spirit in the new trinity teaching?

God
Christ
my husband
me

this just isn't biblical, surely it's:

The trinity (Christ submitted to the Father's will in his incarnation).
Humanity

If I haven't even understood this most basic of Christian concepts then I'd better get back to basics at once and start rebuilding my faith from scratch!

Christian men should not claim the position of God with women in the position of the submitting incarnate Christ, should they? We submit to each other and together to Christ. Men and women together are the bride of Christ as the Church.

We exist by grace alone not works, we neither deliver God's justice nor do we impose our own hierarchies claiming them God-given. Christ came to free us from this - there is an equality for the repentant at the foot of the cross and the only vertical relationship of faith is the one where we come under the authority of the God-head. I know the apostle Paul has us submitting to our earthly masters, - whom none of us can escape, but we submit to the state, the government and the law where it conforms with the laws of our Lord - those laws were gifts, given in exchange for his promises.

Hosseini's Babi in his novel 'A Thousand Splendid Suns' explains to his daughter that 'men saw it as an insult to their centuries-old tradition...to be told by the government-and a godless one at that- that their daughters had to leave home, attend school and work alongside men.' This is still very much the case in Afghanistan. In the last year we have heard of women being stoned in that country.

Sections of our church still have a lot to learn about how they might welcome women. On this  fulcrum thread, we discover that there were no ordained women invited to GAFCON, for example.

Khala Rangmaal the teacher in 'A Thousand Splendid Suns' 'did not cover [with a burqa] and forbade the female students from doing it. She said women and men were equal in every way and there was no reason women should cover if men didn't.'

For this she is reviled and there is much protest from those who want to preserve the status quo:

'God has made us differently, you women and us men. Our brains are different. you are not able to think like we can. Western doctors and their science have proven this. This is why we require only one male witness but two female ones.'

It is interesting to think here about how in Biblical times, similar perceptions were held. It is shocking that Jesus should have  women testifying to his resurrection for in those days they were the least likely to be believed because indeed a woman's testimony did not stand up in court. The other disciples do not believe her but have to see the risen Lord for themselves. Jesus does much to redeem women by choosing them for this task.


At the end of 'A Thousand Splendid Suns' our sacrificed protagonist is described as having been like 'a rock in a riverbed, enduring without complaint, her grace not sullied but shaped by the turbulence that washes over her' and there is some hope for the women who had once suffered under the rigidity of the regime's interpretation of the Koran, interpretation being the key word there!


Attention women:

You will stay inside your homes at all times. It is not proper for women to wander aimlessly about the streets. If you go outside, you must be accompanied by a mahram, a male relative. If you are caught alone on the street, you will be beaten and sent home.

You will not under any circumstance, show your face. You will cover with burqa when outside. If you do not you will be severely beaten.

Cosmetics are forbidden.
You will not wear charming clothes.
You will not speak unless spoken to.
You will not make eye contact with men.
You will not laugh in public. If you do you will be beaten.
You will not paint your nails. If you do, you will lose a finger.
Girls are forbidden from attending school. All schools for girls will be closed immediately.
Women are forbidden from working.
If you are found guilty of adultery, you will be stoned to death.
Listen. Listen well. Obey. Allah-u-akbar.


Despite all of this our heroine, Laila is determined to fulfil her father's vision:
'Afghanistan is going to need you as much as its men, maybe even more. Because a society has no chance of success if its women are uneducated, Laila. No chance.'

I wonder if as women, we need to support some of our Christian sisters? What do they think is the Father's vision for them? Is it a vision too small? Does it need redeeming from the infection of the vision that is society's? Does it even need redeeming from the vision, that is in some places, represented by the theology of their church?

To go back to that marriage sermon, Suzanne explains in a post how 'marriage has only been compared to a kind of 'eternal' subordination of the Son to the Father in the last half of the last century...Did the church fathers believe that the Son was subject to the Father in eternity?' Suzanne describes how, 'Augustine rebutted the view that the Son was subject to the Father, except in that he was subject to Himself, that is, the will of God the Father, and of the Son, is indivisible.'

So where has all this subordinationism stuff come from? Surely, we have to have tremendous faith in humanity, as much as we have in God, in order to believe that if one gender is set to rule another, that those in control will not abuse that right - for humanity is prone to weakness and if the atrocious abuse of Mariam and Laila at the hands of men in 'A Thousand Splendid Suns' seems a million miles away from what occurs in our culture, let it nevertheless serve as a warning to us about what one person can subject another to in the name of God.

As regards Suzanne's analysis that 'marriage has only been compared to the subordination of the Son to the Father in the last half of the last century' it can't be a coincidence that this interpretation has found favour in evangelical circles at the same time in which we have seen women given choices and control over their own lives - be it biological, financial and, or educational.

Our theologies, reflect and address, sometimes critically, the diversity and agenda of our culture. This conservative Christian insistence on 'homemaker moms who submit to their husbands' is surely in response to a society which will at times choose to pack off its children to nurseries at 6 weeks old, to then transfer them to boarding schools later, so that parents can pursue their careers. Love of one another in a family unit, give and take on all sides, can become compromised due to our society's empty promise that we should be happily and healthily balancing it all by embracing all of our 'opportunities'.

I'm faced with all these choices, I'm a woman of the twenty-first century but I'm a Christian woman - what do I do? Do I really simply really do what I'm told by my husband? Surely, we instead decide together, compromise? We both have the same amount of personal autonomy and choose what to sacrifice for the benefit of the other and the family unit as a whole, so that in actual fact, sacrifices don't feel like they are sacrifices in any negative sense that the world might conjure up, sacrifice takes on the Christian sense - it becomes good news - when the affect is the increased happiness of the whole family unit.

This is how I read what God intends, in the original plan, before the fall, Adam and Eve were both instructed with the care of their world:

Gen. 1:26 Then God said, 'let Us make humanity in our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.' 27 So God created humanity in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Now read this as you engage with 'interpretation' and the rule of 'men'. Oh sisters!

25/09/2009

Don't miss out on the passion

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September 27th
I'll be going three times, it's that good!!!


 I like this. Bishop Alistair keeps it real, standing in his kitchen as he does. I'm not quite so sure about Steven Croft's message. I am not always too sure we should put ourselves in fields of flowers. Maybe we have one or two things to learn from the Americans.
 

Here's a book worth buying and be quick whilst it's only £1

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H/t April Deconick

This looks well-worth a read from the sounds of April's post:


Confused by the Bible translation controversy...

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Much of the controversy about the new gender accurate translations centres on the possibility of the inclusive translation of aner.

This is worth reading.

24/09/2009

Would love a ticket to Wheaton

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Hello fellow St John's students

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Thank you for visiting my blog, my fellow first year travellers. You might want to leave fast. I write about St John's a little bit here but this blog's really an exploration of general stuff really which might not be on your interest radar at all, then again you never know.

I explore the whole women in ministry issues and you'll find a lot of exegesis (attempts at) of those 'problem passages'. I am also quite interested in translation issues like the debate surrounding the rumoured discontinuation of the TNIV in 2011. I react to a few Fulcrum articles and they probably represent for me a sound body of people, whose theology I share for the most part and whose forum threads I find interesting. You could impress Ian Paul by telling him that in your 'theology on the web' investigations, you have discovered he is on their leadership team. I've done a little investigation into the competing theological colleges and I generally type up anything through which I feel my understanding of God has either been developed or challenged.

This blog covers my journey listening and discerning this call and most of what I have written reflects truly who I am and what I am interested in. I do think, though, that I started out in June 2008 with a rather reactionary style as I discovered what I was not before I discovered what I am.

I am a 'trying to be Open', Evangelical (who is excited by hermeneutics). I am Charismatic with a big C, which means that the Holy Spirit is a very big part of my life and theology.

I hope to learn loads from you all.

We have Anglo-Catholics, Pentecostals, Seventh-Day Adventists and Moravians amongst us, please help me to be more 'open' as I discover over the next two years just how amazingly more huge is this God of ours.

If you decide to blog your adventures, do let me know and I'll link to you on my blogroll.


Posts will be labeled 'St John's relevant', when they are, well, St John's relevant. I will also indicate this with this badge, unless they say I can't copy and adapt it, which is a possibility.


Behind the grove forum, where there was an essay template has been disabled, shame, so refer to the CDROM we were given for how to set out an essay. I wish I'd grabbed the template before they disabled it - oh well.

I have loved my first week. I hope you all have too.
I'm looking forward to the next instalment of the BFG ;-)

An Article about 'Generous Love' on Fulcrum is worth a read

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Generous Love: the truth of the Gospel and the call to dialogue: a report from the Anglican Communion Network for Inter Faith Concerns: an Anglican theology of inter faith relations, (London: Anglican Consultative Council, 2008)


I suspect that this is worth reading.


There is a Fulcrum article on this from Richard Sudworth:
The Church of England and Islam: Hospitality and Embassy - Theologies of Religion in Process: Part IV Generous Love - 2008 and Beyond


It speaks about how 'Generous Love is a remarkable document that provides a Trinitarian rationale in support of an ongoing shift in formal Anglican approaches to other faiths ...


It talks engagingly about how the Church is both to be host and guest: receiving, learning and being challenged, as well as reaching out, proclaiming and challenging in turn.'


Here are some very encouraging quotes which caught my attention and have prompted me to think more about why I would like to read this.


“the truth of the Gospel and the call to dialogue” - I am interested in the sacredness of our conversations and about the conversations the church has on the web too and how we are engaging others with other faiths and none.


“that double conviction that we must regard dialogue as an imperative from Our Lord, yet must also witness consistently to the unique gift we have been given in Christ.”3


In echoes of the perichoresis theology more familiar to Eastern Orthodox spirituality, the work of God in the world and across cultures and religions is set in the “boundless life and perfect love which abide forever in the heart of the Trinity” and “are sent out into the world in a mission of renewal and restoration in which we are called to share.”5 I think that we need to build any interfaith dialogue on these very solid foundations.


“our relationships with people of different faiths must be grounded theologically in our understanding of the reality of the God who is Trinity. Father, Son and Spirit abide in one another in a life which is “a dynamic, eternal and unending movement of self-giving.””7


The combined “going out” and “welcoming in” are seen from within the Trinitarian dynamic around which the Eucharist is both symbol and source of that self-giving love.14 I love this idea of wiating for one another before we come to eat.


“the giving and receiving of hospitality is a most powerful sign that those who were strangers are reconciled to one another as friends.”15


“The mediation which Christians practise is motivated by the Spirit of love, in imitation of God’s own action of welcome and hospitality towards all people… To put it another way, God is himself both host and guest”.16


Ultimately, within this dynamic, God is the only host...a vision that encompasses the embassy of Christ, to “decide by the Gospel as the people of the Gospel must”.

23/09/2009

Anglican, Open, Evangelical, Charismatic

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(live blogged so excuse the errors)

So 'open' according to Andy Bowsher, when we are speaking about spirituality means that we are open to other influences - all Christian, I hasten to add. 'Different strokes for different folks,' he explains. Charismatic and evangelical and so we encompass those things. We will look at desert spirituality and celtic spirituality etc so that we can all grow.

At 9.10 on a Wednesday we have what is called 'Spirituality', followed by quiet time - where we are silent for an hour. We can use this time to reflect on what has happened. Our ordination retreats will also be in silence and learning to do this corporately is a skill. If this does not come easily, we are able to quietly be creative and do arty things as we are silent. At 11.10 we can then unpack the morning's experiences of the silence and what we have learned. We cater for the extroverts and the introverts! Chat and debate what you have learnt. We also have 'quiet days' in our fellowship groups which is where, with our closest prayer group, we go on retreat.

What is 'Spirituality'? According to Andy Bowsher of Nouslife blog, a way to think about it, is to put spirituality at the centre and then think about the the person who we are before God and in community before God - who are we? Who are we before God? Who are we elsewhere? Part of it is about our cultural fashioning - we are conditioned by our workplaces and our ideologies and our communities. We are thinking about our cultural development; the concerns of different times and cultures. We look at this and different places in the world and the shape of their spirituality so that we don't become insular. What do we think about God's action or even apparent inaction in the world, what does this mean for our theology?

If we become convinced by one strand of theology, how does this affect our relationship with God?

Liturgy and the way that we do stuff, our habits and our routines, we explore this. Quiet time is a regular devotional practice for evangelicals. We will explore seasons and the liturgical calender. How do we develop a spirituality against a consumerist advent backdrop? How does corporate worship relate to how we meet with God?

All of these thjngs overlap and they will continue to form and develop and change.

David Runcorn explains to us what happens when are going through times of change and transition.

Apprehension, excitement, joy, sorrow, fear, curiosity, resistance, denial, gratitude, hope, confusion, frustration, peace - all of this is felt. All of these words actually reflect feelings of transition. Change involves our outer landscape. Home, region, networks can all change.

Transition is about our inscape - what has to adapt within us to cope with the changes in the 'landscape'? It is emotional, spiritual, physical, psychological, relational and theological. God understands this and his grace and gifts will not be held back , they just might not be what we expect.

Institutions tend to be better at change than 'transition'. All change needs nurture to make it effective. The living through of it and the journey is far more important than the destination, only our final destination is guaranteed! In the journey of transition the word takes flesh! If we are engaging in clever theology, never forget it is the stuff of the heart that matters not that one precludes the other.

Three phases of transition
Endings
The space between
Beginnings

Abraham and Sarah set out not knowing where they were going and pitched their tent where they arrived, living as strangers in the land of promise,' Hebs 11:8-9

These people in settled lives uproot and become nomads. We are traveling for the foreseeable future. Jesus said that the son of man has nowhere to lay his head. The journey is the wilderness, the space in between, if we do not know where we are going, how do we know when we have arrived? A whole new world has to entered into. But we journey into in with the mutual support of a community and meet with Christ's grace. Our settled spaces have been stirring perhaps for decades but now it is happening and yet we have not arrived.

Closure is painful at times. How significant our roots can be. We need to complete these affirmational 'yeses'. What has come to end? We have had to let go of things, good things, there is never a clear and easy separation. Do we need to mark, mourn or bless these endings? Other people are part of our transitions. We need to consider how they feel about their significant other's transition. We need to protect our marriages and yet also explore other ways that we can relate to each other from within those relationships.

Tom Stoppard's 'Arcadia' explores the beautiful garden with its imposing pattern order on God's creation.

The protagonist says:
'It makes me so happy....the future is disorded...it's the best possible time to be alive when almost everything you knew is wrong!'

He is very much at odds, thinking these thoughts with the order of the garden which is also the focus of the work.

This place: the wilderness is an ambivalent place. Do not go for the quick fix - the Bible tells us that this is an important place. It took one day for Israel to leave Egypt but forty years for the desert to leave Israel.

Sometimes during transition, we feel as though we might be losing our lives to find them, this is the experience of Jesus. It takes great trust, there will be a finding, of that you can be assurred!

The core of desert living is hospitality, we welcome new ideas and the theology of others. In Christ we wait for one another and we welcome one another.

Normalise this experience for God knows all about it. We are encouraged to think about who else is travelling with us?

A B of C

'You are here because God wants you to be here ...be thankful...it has made the reality of God's witness complete for you...it lovingly conveys God's call.'

22/09/2009

Day two as a 'seminary student'.

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                                            St John's Theological College
I have been asked a few questions about St John's and so I will unpack a little here. Primarily, yes, I am aware that we all make assumptions about certain training establishments, not all of them founded on any real evidence, as is the case with 'assumptions'. I 'assumed' I would not get on too well at Oak Hill or Wycliffe and so I did not pursue those colleges. I am 'under this impression' because Oak Hill, I 'presuppose' to be conservative and it was at the time of its last inspection training only one female ordinand. I know because she was invited to comment about this on a thread I started up on Fulcrum, where I was wondering who she might be. Wycliffe is presided over by Richard Turnbull and I followed the struggles there with Elaine storkey and the resignations. I think it helps if you attend a theological college where you are not too different in your thinking to the principle, or at least this was important to me. That these theological colleges would not have enabled me to grow as a woman in ministry to quite the same extent as St John's, I will never know. They may have been excellent, however, I felt that considering all human beings carry their presuppositions with them, I thought it was healthier to go to St John's travelling lightly, if you're with me, presuppositions don't half weigh a person down.

Queens in Birmingham is a college I know very little about so I only looked into its website and it was the simple description of itself as 'ecumenical' as opposed to 'Anglican' (St John's) which swung me away.

Ridley was a close second. They are associated, in my mind, with 'pioneering ministry', which for a while I wondered if the Lord was calling me into but it turns out he is asking me to be quite conventional but do interesting things from inside a conventional framework, which is the sort of person I also happen to be, conventional, at first glance but creative when you look a little further.

Cranmer, Durham was just too far geographically. My husband is an IT contactor and so staying in the middle of the country suited him better. I think Bristol was already full by the time I was applying, so that was off limits.

St John's is Open evangelical. To me, that means that it is open to fresh liturgical expressions, a reworking of the orthodox, if you like. It is conservative about issues in human sexuality but it is very open about women in ministry. Christina Baxter has done a lot of good work in this area. She endorses the NRSV, for example, because of its gender inclusivity where it is in agreement with the gender inclusive original language expression. I know that my college would not use the ESV for its worship, for example. (If you want to explore this further, see my other posts on the ESV).

There are a few more very important things for me about St Js. The ethos there is very embracing of family life. Children and spouses are very well catered for. It is very relaxed about babies who might cry and students who might need to leave a lecture to breastfeed. It celebrates us in our diversity. Neither of these needs are ones I have but i like to think that if my children were little still, I would love St Js for this.

It also has excellent academic results. They are very affirming of their students and they have us aim very high and then if the academic pressure is too much or the level of learning a little too advanced, they will then find a way to redress this, rather than starting you with something which might not stretch you enough. They recognise your previous educational experience and build on this. So where I might have had to complete a theology degree somewhere else, I can work beyond this level at St John's to see if I can secure a Masters.

The college is in a leafy suburb with good road networks and it is very compact, there is no trudging around huge pannelled, archaic library rooms or endlessly long corridors to find a book or a lecturer.

The very best thing about St John's for this student, though, is the worship. This college is evangelical so the bible teaching is excellent and the preaching is wonderful but it is also charismatic. It celebrates and encourages the Spiritual gifts and the worship is with body, heart, soul and mind. For someone, like me, who can have a bit of a penchant for academic development and staying firmly in control, in something of a rather neat organised world, learning to expect and experience God doing the unexpected is fantastic and has changed the sort of Christian I am, making me much more dependent upon God than I ever was before.

There is a range of churchmanship at St John's but I would hazard a guess that students who do not believe women can preach and teach are in a minority, but i have met two and I got on with them very well, I hasten to add, probably better than some other students because I can engage with the issues. There are also some for whom a more Anglo-catholic style of worship would be preferred. Worship changes in its style, though, to cater for a range of tastes. Yesterday, we sang modern worship songs accompanied by a band but this morning, Morning Office was Taize style, which means that we follow the lectionary but also blend in Taize prayer and instruments and singing.

There are probably as many women training as men, no, perhaps a few more men but it doesn't seem disproportionate on any side. I think the oldest ordinand is probably in his forties and the yougest is nineteen. We are former vicars' wives, civil servants, teachers, engineers, IT managers, accountants, missionaries, musicians, nurses etc. Most of us are full-time and probably three-quarters live on site or in surrounding housing, with the other quarter commuting weekly or daily like me. My journey takes up to half an hour in traffic.

So the place is just wonderful. We are nurtured, educated, fed with literal food and spiritual food. We have lectures and listen to visiting speakers. We meet together in fellowship groups for prayer support and discussions and we socialise and have a laugh. I am so grateful to God that an Open Evangelical Charismatic theological college just so happens to be on my doorstep so that my husband and children have a couple of more years yet before they are uprooted from everything they know.

The very best thing about St John's is that the college students seem not to take themselves too seriously, but they take God very, very seriously indeed!

21/09/2009

Ontological equality JGF Wilks

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The economy of salvation reveals a certain 'order' (taxis) of the hypostases, but the theology affirms that only a full equality of substance between each Person will safeguard against slipping into ontological subordinationism.

Gregory goes on to affirm that any ideas about cause that produce subordination of any sort are inadmissible because of the homoousios.

Basil produced a doctrine of God as a single ousia with three dlstiinct sets of recognizable properties or peculiarities each set formmg an authentically existing hypostasis, the whole bound together Inseparably in a common ousia or nature, no hypostasis being subordinate to or less than the others, but the Second and Third deriving from the First as their source or ultimate principle.

There is no longer any suggestion that God is one simply by reason of the fact that the Second and Third Persons may in the last resort be resolved back into the First Person, since they derive their origin from him. The fact that now comes to be emphasised is that the Father is manifested in the Son and in the Holy Spirit wholly and without detraction. The Three Persons no longer lead back to a unity that is primarily found in one Person: they are in a real sense one in themselves.

Love as an ontological, trinitarian reality

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This is beautiful and is from an article worth reading in full:

Love is not an emanation or 'property' of the substance of God ... but is constitutive of his substance, i.e. it is that which makes God what he is, the one God. Thus love ceases to be a qualifying property of being and becomes the supreme ontological predicate. Love as God's mode of existence 'hypostaslzes God, constltutes his being.

Daughters

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First day at vicar factory

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First day at vicar factory school.

God is good, as you do already know, of course. I had one anxiety about starting theological college: the kids and their breakfast and how they were going to get to school. But it was all great. So at 7.15 we (hubby and I) dropped them off at 'breakfast club'. They enjoyed it so much that the youngest cried when daddy picked her up because she wanted to go back there. Praise God! Breakfast Club's Lesley is like Eadie MCready from Balamory and my girls have to climb on this cute blue bus with smiley faces painted on it to get to school a mile away. They are then taken into the classroom where their teacher meets them.

At college we arrived for breakfast, I can't believe they feed my body as well as my soul - fantastic! Worship was amazing. Christina Baxter preached on Luke 5:21ff  and we sang and we sang and they cleverly got around the whole 'swine flu - can't drink the wine thing', by dipping the bread in the wine first.

We got keys to our rooms and all the maps and information we need so we know where to go for lectures. My husband chatted all things IT with one of the lecturers at lunch who uses multi-media for his class-teaching, so they really hit it off and I can just tell my husband is going to love college life as he learns about all things 'vicar's wifey ;-)'.

My fellowship group are a diverse bunch - a Phd Karl Barth student and an independent student and one part-time ordinand and some first and second year full-timer ordinands. There's a real spread of churchmanship so I am going to enjoy being stretched.

It all just felt like such a relief, being there at last as an ordinand and it is amasing how God uses us all, so unique and different as we are, each with a different story to tell about how we have come to be there. Bring it on! I am going to love it!

18/09/2009

Whose victory?

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This is all good in many ways but I think that the language used is unhelpful. Primarily, if women priests are now able to administer the Lord's Supper at Blackburn Cathedral, it isn't that they have 'won a victory over Balckburn Cathedral'. I am sure that this is not how they would have described it. Why does the media always employ the rhetoric of conquest and defeat or victory? These women have had their theological convictions recognised. I am pretty sure that they are Christ-like enough to also love the brothers and sisters in Christ who do not feel as though they should be administering the eucharist, they should certainly feel this more than the emotions of victory. 

That the Blackburn Cathedral clerical hierarchy listened to the voices of the people it serves is a sign that they are listening and that they can also recognise their place in a Church which recognises two integrities and that sometimes we must wait for one another and sacrifice our own feelings for the sake of the gospel, something which Dr Penfold had done for many years.

I do not think that their behaviour before their apology was discriminatory and offensive. This is the language of the world and misses the whole point of the debate. The reason why women are able to administer the eucharist is not to do with our human rights or the latest anti-discrimination policy, it is because a woman is called by God, as many have been throughout Biblical times and history, to preach and teach the Bible, to shepherd the flock and to share in celebrating Holy Communion. She simply follows in the footsteps of Junia, Mary, Lydia, Euodia, Syntyche and Priscilla and many more, more recently known to us. A woman administering the eucharist, like a man is but the vessel in which lives the Holy Spirit and Holy Communion is everything to do with Jesus and not  the person who passes you the bread and wine. Afterall, as that most famous of article number 26 declares: 

...they do not ... in their own name, but in Christ's, ...minister by his commission and authority, we may use their Ministry, both in hearing the Word of God, and in receiving the Sacraments. Neither is the effect of Christ's ordinance taken away ... nor the grace of God's gifts diminished from such as by faith, and rightly, do receive the Sacraments ministered unto them; which be effectual, because of Christ's institution and promise

At the end of the article it is thought that deep divisions will continue but perhaps there might be more of a chance for reconciliation if we changed the language that we use.

Ace!

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πιστεύων εἰς ἐμέ, καθὼς εἶπεν γραφή, ποταμοὶ ἐκ τῆς κοιλίας αὐτοῦ ῥεύσουσιν ὕδατος ζῶντος.
John 7:38

17/09/2009

The second thing dawning on me

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...is to take my own advice:

DON'T PANIC!

But

Gordon Fee keeps going on about NA 27...

And


UBS 4?

 - Two editions of the Greek New T, yes?

Online?

How do I begin?

Learn the alphabet, yes?

They don't expect me to come to college having already read my NT in Koine, do they? Cos I 'aven't!

Conversation

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Nothing deep or theological to share, simply my excitement that today I've been in email conversation with Gilbert Bilezikian, the great champion of 'Christians for Biblical Equality' and author of 'Beyond Sex Roles - What the Bible says about a woman's place in Church and Society'. Always sparks off a good conversation when left out on the coffee table! Especially if you happen to place your cuppa over the description under the apple tree! This book helped me so hugely when I was struggling to discern what God was calling me to. It was lovely to be able to thank Gilbert at last and learn from him further about resources that are out there on the net.

Well, I sart Monday and a few things are starting to dawn on me....

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This time around I'll be a mature student. During my first degree, we all thought that the mature students were a bit sad. Oh, the arrogance of youth. Now I'll be one and I keep forgetting that a lot of the ordinands (65 of us altogether) are so young. They do look ever so friendly though, don't they? ;-)

D A Carson on hilasterion

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Forensic justification...

This has made for interesting listening today. Carson is passionate and entertaining and obviously a very gifted exegete and theologian. He is exploring the 'New Perspective on Paul', which I suspect I will be covering at college this term. Carson is often at polite loggerheads with NT Wright and so he rather presses upon my feelings of British pride. I have always rather admired Tom. Carson and Tom are contemporaries - whilst Tom was at Oxford, Don was at Cambridge.

Carson speaks ,in an earlier lecture, about how Tom was very reformed in his theology in the eighties but is not so much now. He goes on at the end of this lecture to declare a belief in the idea that unfortunately, Tom casts ecclesiology above soteriology.Of course, I now need to go and listen to some of Tom Wright's stuff, I guess.

For Carson, there is very much the propitiation of God's wrath in Romans 3. Propitiation and not expiation. C H Dodd's analysis is not rated.

Carson speaks admirably on justification through faith available to all. He also makes our status as sinners very clear. Sinners saved, moreover. He talks about the language of redemption and explains neatly the buying back of slaves in the Old Testement. He also shows how our evangelistic image, of the judge taking upon himself the punishment he has dished out to the perpetrator, is rather flawed.

He asks us all to be aware of debate and become Bereans in our own studies of the scriptures.

He is very funny at the end when he answers questions explaining Paul's change of methods. Carson the drinkless! You'll have to listen to know what I am talking about.

So I wonder if Tom Wright and DA Carson will metaphorically be at war in my classroom this term. Can anyone recommend any real beginner resources so that I might start on each side of the debate with a simple text? I already have a copy of a brochure called 'The Justification Debate', which should start me off.

Unlearning and Mary Magdalene

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The passion (British drama serial) was one of the first dramas that did not portray her as the repentant prostitute.
Luke 8. She is one of the women who ministers to Jesus.

She is not the woman who anoints Jesus. She is not the woman caught in adultery, in John chapter 8.

If an apostle is a witness to the resurrection, which is Paul's definition, then Mary is an apostle.

For Luke, an apostle is someone who has witnessed the resurrection and accompanied Jesus during his ministry. She satisfies the criterion. In Mark 15:40-41 we discover that there are these key women who have followed Jesus and ministered to him. For Mark a great disciple has followed and served Jesus. Mary succeeds in this where many of the male disciples fail. Mary is there at the empty tomb in Mark and she is charged to tell the news of his resurrection. She witnesses the empty tomb and has a commissioning directly from Jesus himself in the other gospels. She is the first one there. She is apostolic. In John's gospel, we only have Mary Magdalene who has a personal encounter with Jesus - she is tell the other apostles. She is given increasing prominence as the gospels are formulated over time.

After the end of John's gospel she disappears, she is not in Acts. Paul does not mention her either. Feminist scholars wonder if her role has been suppressed. Her story continues to capture people's imaginations into the second century.
Mary Magdalene is depicted as the first apostle in the canonical gospels.

5pm tomorrow (18th Sept) go to Duke Uni website to talk to Mark directly over the net.

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TNIV AND CBE

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Mimi Haddad from CBE responds to the recent criticisms to the TNIV by highlighting a few key verses which she believes the TNIV translates more accurately.

Romans 3:28, where Paul said that an “anthropos is justified by faith.” The Greek word anthropos, means “person” in this context, and thus the TNIV translates the verse: “For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from observing the law.”

Scripture points to Christ’s salvific work for all people.

John 6:35 “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.” The TNIV translates “he” (in the NIV) to “whoever” in this verse because Jesus clearly invites all people to receive him as Savior.

Titus 2:11 the TNIV translates “For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men” (in the NIV) to “all people.”

Mimi Haddad believes that critics of the TNIV are eager to see “manhood” advanced as a translation priority. They object to the TNIV’s treatment of 2 Samuel 23:8 where an obscure phrase—“mighty men” (in the NIV)—is translated as “warriors.” TNIV opponents suggest that such a change removes “manhood” from the Bible and will ultimately lead to an exodus of men from the church.

Really?
What do you think?

To advance “manhood” is to miss the point of Scripture—the call to all people to become Christ-like.

CBE remain dedicated to the TNIV because this translation makes clear that Christ's victory over sin is available to all people. CBE encourage us to support the TNIV Bible.

16/09/2009

You're worth it!?

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The Emperor decrees that all wives should obey their husbands. Will Jewish Esther obey? She refuses to parade naked in front of her husband’s drunk friends.

It was the custom in most cultures of the world for women to be submissive. In the Ancient Near East women had fewer rights. They couldn’t inherit anything from their fathers and they had no property rights after divorce. If they were disobedient wives, they could be dismissed and would, in effect, be abandoned.

But God worked to change all that. Submission is reworked. It gets a 'make-over'!

I come across so many women who just don't understand how I can make the Bible the focus of my life. I think they feel sorry for me, like I must have half a brain and I must be living a kind of half-life. They are, pretty biblically unaware, but have presuppositions that the Bible is oppressive and legalistic. I am thinking through a few ways by which I might subtly go about reversing their thinking. It is taking time and it has to be done with a lot of humour but I think some of the areas for exploration with my group of friends involve redeeming a Christian view of the body. It is thought that Christians have a kind of material/ spiritual dichotomy going on, which, of course, couldn't be further from the truth. So sometimes they laugh when I talk to them about sex, I express that within marriage, this is something God has blessed us with. It is to be enjoyed. I hope also to reveal that there is nothing secular to God but sin. God is not just present in our churches, he is everywhere and his Holy Spirit knows no limits. I also want to reveal to them the mutuality and freedom that exist within a Christian marriage. In Christian marriages there is such trust. Each partner knows that the other is obedient ultimately to the Lord. This is a higher calling than any obedience to each other. If we act in ways that honour Jesus, it is impossible to dishonour one another. I want my friends to understand that there is nothing oppressive about Christian marriage.

In the Old Testament, the country where women had rights was Israel, under the law of Moses.  God gave his people rights (which came with responsibilities, of course).  Divorced women could keep their own property and they could remarry. A woman without brothers could inherit the family property and run it and even a poor woman couldn’t have the land taken away by a rich man. Marriages were arranged, but women could refuse to do what their father wanted and if husbands neglected their wives she could divorce him.

It is true that the Old Testament said that women should be submissive to husbands but this was in the list of curses which came on humanity when Adam & Eve fell.

Gen.3.16-19:
16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." 17 To the man he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it', Cursed is the ground because of you;  through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

As a result of the Fall, everything in creation went wrong, as Paul says in Romans, food didn’t just grow; men had to expend sweat to clear to keep the weeds down and babies were born with pain and with danger to the mother’s life.

The relationship between a husband and wife was marred by domination -“your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you” (3.16)

Some interpreters regard these curses as punishments from God, which we should suffer. Others regard them as consequences of the Fall, which ruined the whole of creation, which we seek to improve as we co-work with God, empowered by his Spirit. Redemption hermeneutics and liberation theology often seek to explore the ways in which with God's Kingdom breaking in the fall's effects are lessened. We are living under the fall but we are new creations in Christ and he is redeeming and reconciling all things to himself. So, we help women having children, keeping them safe from harm and pain and we help farmers to defeat weeds with modern farming methods and we help relationships between husbands and wives by teaching mutuality in accordance with the gospel.

It is also important that people understand that the mutuality we are passionate about is not a result of our culture's feminist movement. We are in the world but not of it. We can espouse equality because it is a gospel imperative. In some ways our culture does not help us to teach this good news. Some denominations of the Church believe that Christian women are only interested in equality because they are products of their culture. Feminism can be very different to Biblical equality. In New Testament times, Roman women were demanding equal rights to money and to sexual freedom and were spending scandalous amounts on jewellery and hairdos and they were taking lovers just like their husbands had always been allowed to do. No wonder Paul had to exhort both the men and the women in these churches to order. Christian women are cautious today not to repeat the mistakes of those women. They are very clear that they are not following what their own culture might say to them: "You are worth it!" Clarins tells us. "Do what ever pleases you as long as you hurt no one else". No, it is Christ who makes us worthy. It is his immeasurable worth in which we are interested. Do what pleases the Lord. It is important for Christians to reject a form of feminism which negates responsibility or attempts to recreate woman in the shape of man or teaches that women do not need men. We do need each other. We were meant to partner each other. It is important to make others aware that espousing Biblical equality has often little to do with the teaching of our own culture, it just happens to coincide with some of it.

In what ways do you think Biblical equality coincides with our own culture's teaching about the genders?

In what ways do you think it departs?

Is it our job to help Christ bring in the universal restoration of this planet, wherein, united with Christ we see that God intended for humanity to share in joint rule, men and women together in multi-national, multi-ethnic equality?

Here's a good place to visit if you are interested in pursuing any of these ideas?

Junia - the first female apostle

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Is Junia the first female apostle?

Ed Sanders told Mark about a woman apostle at 16:7 when he was at Oxford in the 1980s. This was a long time before women started to become ordained into the Church of England.

Why is it that people do not know about Junia?

In context Paul is greeting people he knows. Andronicus and Junia are prominent among the apostles. In older translations, people presupposed Junia could only be a man. The original language proves that her name is feminine. There are many examples of this female name. Andronicus and Junia are a married couple. We have a female name and she is prominent among the apostles and it is only relatively recently that translators have presupposed her male. The early church father Chrysostom accepted she was female.

Scholars who accept that she is female are in the majority but if unhappy with this, some translators (Wallace etc) are only holding Junia as esteemed highly BY the apostles. Even those who admit that this is possible, admit also that it is highly unlikely. It would be rather an odd thing for Paul to say the apostles highly esteem Junia without including himself amongst that group doing the esteeming.

Hear in full here.

h/t Pat

Interesting how the ESV translate it as:
ESV 7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me.
How can we believe that there is no bias there?

15/09/2009

I don't think this quite works, do you?

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Click title.

It does seem rather strange. And how might it end? For example, might it be that one day clergy have only to assent to their belief in some such book, the Bible, existing, without actually having to consent to being bound to what lies therein?

Actually, as I write this, I am hearing the voices of liberal protestants saying, 'exactly' - it exists but we all interpret it differently so we decide for ourselves to what we assent. I know Anglicanism is wonderful because it is 'the via media' par excellence but we need to have some integrity surely?

So, how do we go about this?

Rowan Williams has written about how churches in the West are deeply restless. As a consequence of this, we sometimes rush to positivism, even fundamentalism. We have to express that there is one statement of the truth. Are we doing so for the right reasons, all of the time? If we are overly wary about doing this, we should be equally cautious about swallowing the western liberalist agenda. We have to be critical. We actually need to be modest about claims to be right.

The ethos of classic Anglicanism is a historical spirituality as expressed in the 39 articles and the BCP. It is authoritarian. We have attempted perhaps to make it less so.When we make these changes, it is necessary as we seek to proclaim the message afresh but we still need for that continuity with the past.

Scripture is central. Even reformers like Cranmer preserved the Bishops, Deacons and Priests and reused some medieval liturgy. But he was also sure to communicate the justifying grace of God. Cranmer also had a heart for the equality of the members of the body of Christ. His emphasis lay less on preaching and more on scripture and he dreamed of the whole commonwealth gathering daily around the daily office and around the sacraments on a Sunday.

The via media is about a modesty about human knowing about God. We are limited and sinful and we need to remember that whilst He is certain, we are not. The Church is a fallen and corrupt institution. Accordingly, it must be a modest Church about what it claims to know. Compared with Lutherism or the Reformed Confessions of faith, the 39 articles is thin, it has a flimsiness which is good, it only contains strong statements about the few things that really deserve it.

We need to be modest about what we know about God and the authority of the Church. We are all working it out together. God communicates perfectly but we hear imperfectly.

Hooker believed in the infallibility of the scriptures but he also believed that God has made his ways known to the Church in other ways. And you have to admit that there are a number of things left free to the church to work out. The Bible does not give us a blueprint for organising his church. We have to work it out under the guidance of the Spirit.

Scripture contains all things necessary for salvation but lest we fall into fundamentalism, we must also see that it acts to take us to Christ in whom we have salvation and we have to work out how to be church now, today!

Sola scriptura, perhaps, but it is not simply Bible alone. We refer to the Bible as the word of God but the Word is Christ. His is the authority of the Bible, pointing to a triune God as authority. If you look at the first five articles of the 39, they are about God before they are about the Bible.

Hooker contrasted Moses and Christ. Can we talk of Moses as the law-giver, where Christ was not? The word of the Lord in the Old Testament was temporary but we have the living word – Jesus Christ.

In a sense, the Daily Office helps us to appreciate the Living Word and guards us against a sola scriptura funadamentalism because when we encounter Scripture as Church and not as individual believers it reminds us that we are community. We are accountable to each other and to God. We read the scriptures Christocentrically because Christ is the centre.

In view of this, I am pretty sure I will assent to more than just the existence of the 39 articles. 

Some of what I have written here follows my reflections after a morning spent with Alan Bartlett. Author of 'Humane Christianity' and lecturer at Durham. 

14/09/2009

Do we welcome each other?

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This poem is about Christ the lover welcoming someone who feels so unworthy.  The sinner feels unworthy and the prayer book reminds us that we sinful and justified. This poem takes this idea a step further. It is Christ's love which draws us nearer and nearer. He reaches out to the sinner; the guest at the inn. We have displayed here, the welcoming heart of God. This is a profoundly biblical poem but then Herbert did spend both morning and evening with the scriptures.


The second stanza echoes Exodus 33 - Moses' encounter with God. The God at whom we dare not look, takes our hand. Though we are dust and sin, he holds us. He loves us and redeems us.  There is the language of touch. We have an image of a very tender God.

Later we have allusions to the sacraments.

Christ the lover replies – no – look who bore the blame – the substitutionary nature of the atonement is beautifully expressed. It expresses carefully what Christ has done for us. 

We need a similarly tender touch. If we are to imitate Christ, then we are to be equally welcoming to those who would prefer to hide their faces or have had their faces and voices hidden through no fault of their own. People need to know that God welcomes them and he wants them to be there.


LOVE
Love bade me welcome; yet my soul drew back,
Guiltie of dust and sinne.
But quick-ey'd Love, observing me grow slack
From my entrance in,
Drew nearer to me, sweetly questioning,
If I lack'd anything.


A guest, I answer'd, worthy to be here:
Love said, You shall be he.
I the unkinds, ungrateful? Ah my deare,
I cannot look on thee.
Love too my hand, and smiling did reply,
Who made the eyes but I?


Truth Lord, but I have marr'd them: let my shame
Go where it doth deserve.
And know you not, sayes Love, who bore the blame?
My deare then I will serve.
You must sit down sayes Love, and taste my meat:
So I did sit and eat.

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