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I'm still not sure on this one, i don't like them using the word, Marriage, but i'm not sure if i can fully defend why.
ReplyDeleteIn a jumble of words my eyes strayed, looking down your site, marvelling at how it's grown over the past few years. I found myself looking at the bottom of your tags list, all those small words, nestled in the dregs is the tag 'the gospel'. How did such a huge thing end up down there, I wondered, and scrolled up to find the biggest word on the list 'Gender issues'...
Somehow I wanted to say something about how this blanket legalism sounding statement, true or not, just felt like we were perhaps feeding the wrong fire.. perhaps I'll never find the words, perhaps I just don't see the gospel in the argument and so I can't feel the passion of those who put so much weight into it.
I think it would be helpful to promote dialogue among those with different positions on this matter. At present, we are tending to talk past one another.
ReplyDeleteIt is worth remembering that much of the momentum for designating committed same-sex partnerships as marriage comes from heterosexual married people with LGB&T family and friends, and who believe that such partnerships share important characteristics with their own marriages. Those who wish to persuade them that they are wrong, I suggest, first try to understand their perspective.
It would also be worth exploring whether, in any of the countries where same-sex couples can legally marry, the consequences warned of in the petition have actually come to pass.
Even though opinion is likely to continue to remain divided in church and society, those on both 'sides' could perhaps come to understand one another better.
I guess what we find is that the lobbying goes both ways. What I think is difficult is summarised in the heading of this post. There is some terrible polarising that goes on. It would be quite refreshing to find opinion that is able to fulfil the heading of this blog. Homophobia is not something that anyone wants to be charged with and yet this is bandied around as an accusation a lot. I am still looking out for a nuanced enough approach which somehow manages to defend the idea of Holy Matrimony, in church, before God, as something that is more specifically male and female, whilst at the same time recognising that other kinds of relationships are being lived out in the world in which we live and approach this with grace.
ReplyDeleteHey gfeef,
ReplyDeleteThank you God and Jesus are pretty heavily covered. The Gospel tends to be a label I give to sermons I preach and these are being stored somewhere else. This blog got born through its investigations into the women's ordination / consecration debate, hence its coverage. I think my interest in gender issues got going when I was about 5 years old and I watched Matthew Corbett on the Sooty and Sweep show singing about how boys were to be footballers and girls were to be secretaries. That was back in the seventies and I figured even back then something was a bit off.
Re - the sexual ethics/marriage issue. I am exploring just like the rest of us how I articulate what I try to articulate on this issue. It is relevant to me because the Church of England is thinking of extending to clergy a choice as to whether they marry same-sex couples. It is something one day I am probably going to be asked to form an opinion on which will then have pragmatic consequences for my ministry. Here I invite that 'iron-sharpening-iron' on the issue that has, in the past, helped me to grow. I hope you are not too disappointed by this blog's contents because I live hoping that the church preaches the one gospel on primary issues, these topics are less debated, it is often the secondary issues that get the discussions going and are hence of interest to me as I blog and study my way through the Church of England's approach to life and faith in the 21st century.
I am learning, over time, however, that even such things as the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and his work on the cross are not being thought about in the same way as I perhaps might have once imagined was peculiarly an Anglican faith in the gospel. But there you go - we live and learn.
Hope all well with you. x